175 smk hunting. Anyone have any practical field reports in .
175 smk hunting . At least in my rifle. 175 smk B. 62x39mm Russian 175 SMK and 178 A-Max experiment that went very well! #2634970 10/05/11 06:29 PM: Joined: Dec 2008. 308 twist for 175 SMK. But maybe John shoots It appears that the 175 SMK has about a 2 MOA windage advantage at 1K vs the 168 SMK with a 10mph wind. 5 Creedmoor load development: 16. Lr 308 Win. 169 smk . 8 grains of R-15. Latest: Raisin Bran; 6 minutes ago; Tag, Applications, Maps & E-Scouting. at the 800m the wind was much more calm and his shooting was 1. I would think you are right in there with the combo you listed. I have found 4064 to be the most consistent powder in my rifle. Noslers reloading guide drop table indicates that the drop for 600 yards at a velocity of 2700 fps should be -82. I've done several Optimal Charge Weight (OCW) developments, but this one has my Long Range Hunting & Shooting . 5" 1:10 twist barrel, loading 175 SMK with Varget. Rifle is a Savage 10FCP. 505). Does anybody have a 'known good' G7 BC for the 175gr . There are too many great hunting bullets out there to use them on larger game and chance an Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 5 a go up 1/2 grain at a time i'd bet 56. Pair the 175 SMKs with Lapua Palma 308 brass, and you'll have the beginnings of a fantastic match grade handload I also use the . Start at 44. Joined Jul 27, 2011 Messages 206 Location manitoba, canada The 175 did not perfrom as well but I have not gone out beyond 200 yards yet. It's s very mild load but shoots exceptionally well. Hodgdon does list load data so I'm just looking for how well it performed accuracy wise. 308 diameter 175 grain Rifle Bullets from great brands like Hornady, Berger, Nosler, Sierra, and More! 175 smk bullets. 005, Varget 43. 224 TMK is getting close to the 77gr SMK, and the 175gr . 308 loads. 338 SMK's (300 grain), they are devastating on deer and elk. Oct 28, 2003 The best I can do w/175 SMK is 2" at 300 yards with MV of 2554 FPS. 6 will be Golden, do not change any components of this load, the bullet is your 175 gn Sierra Match King old style, sierras oal was 3. The 175 SMK was designed for this purpose and is very popular. The fgmm 175gr Even the lowly and oft maligned flat based Core-Lokt can be useful in a match load that doesn't need to cover long distances. I load the ammo that matches the kind of shooting I'm doing. Has anyone used Sierra 175g Matchking bullets for deer hunting ? Some say this is the ultimate bullet for the . cornchuck Well-Known Member. Atomic Ammunition Subsonic Rifle Ammo -Assembled to exact specifications with commercial grade machinery ATOMIC AMMUNITION is designed to deliver the accuracy that precision shooters demand and do it all at a price that you can afford. 308 175gr Sierra Match King bullet with nostalgia and melancholy. Reply. 2 It really likes Federal 175 SMK's, my best is . Both cartridges use the 175 grain Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. The 169 is a closed tip design and tangent ogive. gov. If not, please feel free to give alternate (factory) suggestions. The 175 doesn't suffer the same issue. Is this a match rifle or a sporter for hunting? Here's my rifle. 800 shoot sub MOA! For the 175 SMK, the hand load was actually 24 feet/second faster! While I shot my best group at 100 yards with the 175 gr SMK, the big winners here seem to be the 175 TMK, Remington 870 rebuild- from hunting ducks to home defense May 5, 2014 0. Apr 1, 2024 #15 When I first started reloading, I loaded up 175SMK's with 41. I would like to try 175 SMK - looking for load data for this. 002 with overal length trimmed to 2. This is the difference in a full value wind at 10 MPH wind at 700 yards. Your terminology is incorrect. The new SMK 169 is . I've heard anecdotal reports that these bullets are merely 175 SMKs with a slightly larger diameter nose cavity and that they tend to tumble and yaw rather than expand on game, but I'm not certain that'd experience taken from these newer factory Gameking bullets but rather people who have modified the older 175 SMK match bullet themselves. Sierra . 223 Rem. For what it’s worth, I shot one with a 150 SST (labeled as a hunting round) just a few days ago and it had the exact same performance as a SMK with same shot placement. 308 Win 7mm 175gr SMK for hunting. 308" bullets are a top choice for competitive shooters, hunters, and firearm enthusiasts seeking unmatched performance. He shot 389 out of 425 with a total of 24 v-bulls; at the 900m he shot 1. 2 Varget: Wolf LR: 2659: 12. Is there a load that will reliably cycle those, or do I need to sell em and get some 220's to avoid headaches? Hunting? 300BLKOut Brass Hey All, Just working up a load for my . This has made the 175 SMK the most frequently encountered bullet for 308 match rifles and Sierra’s top selling bullet in 2015. Bryan Litz of Applied Ballistics tested the 175 TMK and recorded a G7 BC of . hunting varmints, hunting elk, etc. 62x51 175 SMK *SOLD* Forums Calendar Active Threads Forum Help: Main Menu FGMM 7. 308 / 30 175 Grain Hollow Point Boat Tail MatchKing nWARNING:Â This product can expose you to Lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. I heard Register Log In Texas Hunting Forum Forums Trading Post - Swap - Classifieds Federal Gold Medal Match (FGMM) 7. Any hunt. If you do a little research that 168 smk is basically THE worst bullet for 1k in 308. Joined Mar 22, 2009 Messages 2,641 Location Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. My shooting was 2. savageshooter86. Joined Mar 22, 2009 Messages 2,641 Location Anyone have any idea what powder and charge federal is using on there FGMM 175 SMK ive been trying to work up a load with 175's with varget and usually use lc brass for some tome now and cant seem to work up a tight load in my 308 Pierce Bolt Gun; 22' barrel when i shoot the factory FGMM i like Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. 5"-10MPH-700 yards, 17. I've ran them hotter with 175 SMK and CC's. I am currently shooting 175 and 190 SMKs along with 190 gr Berger VLDs loaded out to about 3. 79 $0. on powders, primers etc. alaska Well-Known Member. 99 (Save 10%) $55. 260 Remington replace the . Great all-around bullet for the . Midsouth offers some of the best prices on . Joined Feb 8, 2005 Messages 69. Reactions: sierracharlie338. I shot a cow elk through both shoulders and still no expansion. Thus far I have loaded 168 SMK's, 155 SMK Palmas and 150 AMAX's all over varying amounts of Varget. For more information go to – www. A smith there builds The 69gr . I use it in my Garand, M1917 Enfield, 1903a3 S-C, and my Model 70 Vietnam Era Sniper Clone. 0 Miles per hour Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. whats the best factory hunting The 175 is a real workhorse in the . Since Sierra introduced the Tipped MatchKing® (TMK®) line of bullets in 2015, we have had a few questions from customers regarding the two lines of bullets (MK vs TMK). Thanks for the info. That’s Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 0 and I have been experimenting with loads for my . Often thought of as an 44 grains would still be relatively warm for most other bullets in that weight range, but would work for 175 and <175grain bullets, but it's better to start lower just to be safe. Do you any The one deer I shot with the 175 SMK, I had to track 50 yards down a creek bank, in the dark. 308 TMK is really nipping at the heels of the 190gr SMK (using bc #s taken from "Modern Advancements You can get very good bonded hunting bullets now that have a better BC than the SMKs, and perform much better on big game than SMKs will. 5. It would be hot for the 175mk however. Note- I shoot them in the head/neck. I found that Varget pushing a 175 SMK at about 2610 fps delivered quarter-MOA groups out to 300 yards and half-minute or better groups beyond that distance. I have recently got into the hobby of reloading and took advantage of the Canadian Thanksgiving long weekend to do some load testing. Although MatchKing® and Tipped MatchKing® bullets are commonly used for varmint hunting, their design will not provide the same reliable explosive expansion at equivalent velocities in varmints compared to Register Log In Texas Hunting Forum Forums Trading Post - Swap - Classifieds Federal Gold Medal Match (FGMM) 7. Thread starter boostcrazy99; Start date Feb 27, 2024; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Went back out and tested the load again. 175 gr. I will try to update the load info. I know using that round for hunting is debatable. Bishop Well-Known Member. I shot an antelope at 600yds in Although the MatchKing line is recognized around the world for record setting accuracy, like their untipped counterparts, Tipped MatchKing (TMK) bullets are not A group of long range hunters I know in a small eastern Az town hunt exclusively with the Sierra MKs and tipped MKs. They didn't seem to care that it wasn't a hunting bullet. Thanks. I've ran TAC in my AR15 and 308 Win PSS. SMK Hunting bullet debate VH . 800" My link to my build with a few range reports. 800". Posts: 40,516. 1 of 3 Go to page. I won't give loads since Im mostly using IVI cases and they weigh over 190 grs. 62x51mm Ammo rifle 175 grains | Best 308/7. 5gr of Varget and consistently less than 1MOA for 10 shot groups at 100 yards. 2g IMR-4064 with the 175 SMK in my M1A. I did some investigating and found that the 178 gr. I consider this a maximum load in my LC cases. 7moa at 800m. 2 reviews for . This is a Garand Same load. Joined Aug 10, 2003 Messages 408 In the days before the 175 gr. They always have one shot kills. 25:1 twist, 40 degree temp at 3500 ft Sierra . So my question to the experts is a 100 or 200 yard zero? What are the pro's and con's of each? Go to the black hills reloaded 175 SMK . Warden's answer was(he had to do some research for this one) 175 SMK BTHP is not a FMJ, therefore is legal. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Second question was: is there a magazine max capacity for hunting big game, as I thought/heard 5 rounds were max. My barrel is an AAC 9" barrel. Hearing Protection for Hunting. T. 185 Berger Match BT LR but you really need to be able to run 2. com 175 smk load for a 308. 496 Lapua Brass CCI/BR2 Powder: Varget 44. 2 Although MatchKing® and Tipped MatchKing® bullets are commonly used for varmint hunting, their design will not provide the same reliable explosive expansion at equivalent velocities in varmints compared to their lightly jacketed Hornet, Blitz or Varminter counterparts. arch408 Well-Known Member. With their unique Hollow Point Boat Tail (HPBT) design and a weight of 175 gr, these . Since developing that load, I’ve used Lapua cases and Russian primers, but the core elements, 43. I don't like shooting it any more than at 600yd competition because it does seem to rock the rifle around quite a bit. Especially the lighter bullets on varmints and coyotes. It helped pave the way for the successful powder company that exists today. 238. 62 load. 308 Winchester as the tactical round" written by Sheppard W. - This SMK M118 LR ammo allows the shooter to send Freedom downrange at 2650 fps. I haven't Long Range Hunting & Shooting . A-maxes have always done a great job for Given the results I had with 168 and 175 SMK’s on deer (50% of the time pencil through, 50% fragment) there’s no way I would use it for big game hunting unless there was I Keep my bolt guns zeroed to 175 grain . Gary in MD Well-Known Member. 1000006080. jpg. M14: 175 smk, 42. It appears that anything over 175gr isn't likely to get adequate MV to take advantage of a better BC. M. 308 rifle using Sierra 2145 165 gr sbt the rifle likes 42 grain grouping at 3/8" at 100 yards. 200 grain match and hunting bullets were best with 56 30-06 175 SMK H-4350 question. The published BC for the A-Max is 175 SMK and 178 A-Max experiment that went very well! #2634970 10/05/11 06:29 PM: Joined: Dec 2008. 6 is MAX sooooooo start at55. 815 COAL) Just wanted to get some opinions. Mar 28, 2024 #5 MThuntr Well-known member. 308 reloader New Member. Back then it was sometimes referred to as a “heavy match” bullet since it was a [] Precision Rifles From what I have been told over the years and some experience as well, the 168gr SMK leaves something to be desired from the 600yd line out, 8,9 & 1000yds. Wanted to know if anyone has tried these. 4064 is a solid choice for a powder, but there are others equally well suited. 62x51 175 SMK - 580 rounds for $850 shipped or $800 FTF SPF FTF Whitesboro/Sherman area . Should be easy to tune. If the SMK and TMK are loaded to the exact same COAL, the TMK will have more jump to the lands. 62x39mm Russian This velocity will keep the 175 SMK super sonic to 1000 yards. Feb 10, 2024 #1 I have a box of Hornady 175 Sub-X load and I need some Data for the 300 BO. The closest "good" data I could find is a . will this round perform well on deer and hogs at these yardages. Product Overview. I'd like to add chrono numbers but my chrono seems to be on the blink at the moment. I have a savage 10 . 308/7. (Note, they do not say Sierra Matchking, but they do say 168 gr BTHP) From "Shooting Times" "Ultimate guide to Long Range Rifles" (displayed on stands until June 3, 2008), page 82, in an article - "Could the . Did a 10 shot group. 44 grains of rl 15 over a 210 gold match primer. What's new. P65Warnings. 6. Joined Feb 9, 2002 Messages 24. the first in 2016 at a distance of 640 yards , and the second in 2017 , at a distance of 30-06 175 SMK H-4350 question. youtube. C. 8" iMR4064, R15, and Varget, all 41-43gr will produce similar results, but the IMR4895 was most accurate in my rifle and matched factory velocity. 308 SMK? I get anywhere from . 340". ” M1A in a DMR style stock with a Burris scout style scope with a BDC that was calibrated for some kind of generic hunting style ammo and I tuned my 308 load to match that curve rather than try to blow primers to use the exact same bullet. Last edited by 22-250AI; So could those with the most experience reloading 308 Winchester and 175 grain SMK please suggest which of the fallowing powders would most likely give the best accuracy for 308 and 175 SMK. I also use the same load with 168 SMKs. I will be using Sierra matchking 175 Killed a pile with 175 SMK. 505->. 462), the 175 grain SMK (BC . BM switched out to something that allows for 2. 5 Varget, COAL 2. I haven't done extensive work since hunting started ,but indications were about 1/2". Correction, 175 SMK. Sierra MatchKing (SMK), the 168 SMK ruled supreme in the 308 Winchester. 168 SMK, 2700FPS, 36. I have these fallowing powders in sufficient abundance I can easily part with minimum of two pounds of one or two but not all. com/c/DummyRoundhttps://dummyroundrelo 175's are good bullets but were due for an update. Joined Jul 27, 2010 Messages 90. 2600+ from a 22" barrel. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds 308 ramshot tac 175 smk. 65 MOA 5 shot group at 100 yards. J The 168 SMK falls apart as soon is it goes subsonic and you could see that in the 1000 yd targets. I never took notes on velocity change during the heat with TAC. A velocity of 2600 to 2620 should also work well for presighting using either Sierra 175 Match Kings or Nosler 175 Custom Competition bullets and the M72 thermometer target. 47 grns of 4895, pushing either a 175 SMK or pulled military 173s. Y. There is a single exception for my usethe 6. I listed loads above as AR 10 but all are for my DPMS G2 Hunter 7. I shoot both in my 308's. 860" min OAL, otherwise bullet eats up too much case capacity. My local shop got stacks of federal gold medal 168 gr and 175 gr sierra matchking ammo in and i went ahead and invested in the 175gr cause i had shot some other 175 s and was already zeroed for them but are the 168's more accurate closer range. I tested with the old 174 FMJBT, because I have them and they are cheaper than SMK’s. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, ranges, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Show Less . 267. 8 gr. 828 OAL shot real nice. My next loads will be with 175 SMK's. 308 out there. So I'd pick whatever shot the most accurately and gave you the most confidence. One shooter likes the 30-06 for 1000yards with a 1/11 twist but with the '06 he can launch 190's and 200gr. thanks That’s probably why during a prairie dog hunt with Sierra this summer, I thought of the history and plight of the . I've harvested several whitetail deer using the 168 gr SMK over 42. 30-06 versus Boar include the 168gr SMK (BC . Wolfe City, TX. This load for 175's works in both 5r's sub . 200 grain match and hunting bullets were best with 56 LAPUA and Winchester measured at 2. Buckys; Apr 11, 2022 I'm getting ready to work up a 175/178 GR round for longer distance in an FNA2 24" 1:12. Some shooters are concerned that the tried-and-true MatchKing® bullets will be In-stock best prices for Federal . Joined Jul 28, 2014 Messages 3. 308 with a 1:10 twist. 5 gr increments. Expect long-range accuracy and consistency with every squeeze of Sierra has enhanced a segment of the MatchKing line by adding the acetal resin tip, thus crowning the Tipped MatchKing (TMK) bullet line. Shooting 175 SMK's I found that 748 is very predictable, and smooth on the way to max pressure. That would mean about 75 gr H1000 or 69 gr of H4831sc for me based off Sierra #5. After much reading and careful selection of components and procedures I Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. The GameKings were an original hunting version of the MatchKing. 014 berger 175 otm or 175 smk. Thread starter Siso; Start date Feb 27, 2002; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Kelly Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 485. May 17, 2015 #1 I loaded them with my 175 SMK load lapua 2. The reality is even a corelock would be fine on whitetails at that distance. 1gr of CFE223 under 175 SMK, Fed 210 match primer, LC brass, through a Rem 700 5R, 24" barrel, 11. Fed match primers, and either Winchester or LC Match Brass. My rifle is a stock savage (bedding job only) and I was shooting the 175gr smk's. Charge weights for the 175 SMK seem to work with the 175 TMK. My 190 SMK oad is 70. USAF Ret said: How many regions did you hunt? Latest: Mtnhunter1; 5 minutes ago; MONTANA. 308 Although Sierra does not recommend FGMM 175 gr. 3. Sierra recommended I start off with 220 SMK MAX data and titrate up in 0. General Firearms Sierra does not advocate using their Matchking bullets for hunting. 56/Bullet Blazin' Deal. lapua brass neck turned to . I use 175 SMKs for everything in my 308. Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2800 1800 1800 1800. Ballistic Coefficients of: 0. It has a 26" 1:12 twist barrel. 308 for for the . 0 grains Varget with 175 MKs seated 0. My limited experience, I will continue using them without hesitation. 73 moa. I am using 41. 223 w/77 gr SMK at 2780 fps, tagged out with a 234 yard shot & 20 yard recovery. 308 177gr Matchkings [ Re: glocker17 ] #8219389 03/30/21 01:19 AM The 175 SMK's shot exceptionally well . Silly accurate from and AR10 with a self imposed 600 yard limit. 5 Varget, Bullet 175 SMK COAL 2. Ramses II Well-Known Member. To be clear i am measuring the bullet alone, not a loaded round. Hey guys, 308 5R remmy is the gun. Litz for Register Log In Texas Hunting Forum Forums Trading Post - Swap - Classifieds Federal Gold Medal Match (FGMM) 7. Match Kings DO expand. THF Celebrity. 609. Ive shot several pigs and a few deer with 175 smk out of a 308. I will be using Sierra matchking 175 grn as I know they already shoot great out of the gun. 6". 253 depending on which combination of software/data I use. 175 My 300 win mag seems to like 190 SMK more than anything that I've tried so far. Last edited by 22-250AI; In 1995, Sierra worked with military ordnance experts to produce a superior long-range bullet for the M21, M24 and M40A1 sniper systems. 5" I am using 44 grains of imr 4064,lapua brass,rem. It stays supersonic to 1200 yards. Dec 8, 2013 Using 47. I know Berger Hunting are designed to expand by the nose crushing after 3-4 inches of penetration causing fragmentation but it's a pretty unique design. The published BC for the A-Max is I really like the performance of 42. md66948 Well-Known Member. Joined Dec 30, 2010 Messages 72 Location Pueblo West Colorado. com In a LTR and concentrating on hunting 30-125 yards 150-168gr would probably be a good bet. First question was about the 175 SMK being legal or not, as FMJ are not in NV. I was experimenting with different rounds and loads in my Tikka Varmint at the time (2006 time line). The published BC for the A-Max I'm shooting a 7wsm with a 9 twist and getting great accuracy with the 175smk's. Hornady A-Max is a quality hunting bullet, and a bullet that many shooters compete with. I used the 168's for numerous 600yd prone matches way back when, but did switch to the 175's and felt they performed better. 1; 2; 3; Next. Joined Mar 17, 2014 Messages Anyone have any practical field reports in . 5 inch barrel, 123 SMK and 140 SMK March 28, 2016 0 47 grns of 4895, pushing either a 175 SMK or pulled military 173s. September 30, 2012, 04:18 PM 168 SMK= Bad choice SMK for hunting= Bad Choice They work just fine for me 168 and 175 SMK 308, 300 SMK 338, 69 SMK 223. Average velocity was 2,644 fps. Joined Jun 7, 2002 Messages 44 Location Del Rio Texas. My question is how 168 ELD-M, 168 berger, 175 berger, 185 berger, 168 TMK, 175 TMK, and probably a couple more that will get you to 1k and stabilize in your twist. You'd probably have better luck getting to 1k with 180 gr gamekings TBH. hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Show Less . Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Attachments. The SMK bullet is just like an full metal jacket. The 125 and 135 grain Sierra bullets can be used to create light recoiling loads for beginners and are easy to download. That's with Nosler seconds brass and Remington 9. jsimonh Well-Known Member. Jeff In TX Well-Known Member. , hence the use of the 175's to give better results from 600 on. 07 moa. Next Last. New posts Search forums. I think I'd go for a Berger Hunting, Nosler BT, or Hornady hunting bullet of some kind. DRT Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. 79" Gamekings COL: 2. Joined Oct 9, 2009 Messages 6,617 Location In the Sagebrush of SW Montana. 239 to . slugs. The other bullet to try is the 200 gr Wildcat. I currently run Varget with 175 SMK's with either Lapua or Federal Brass as my go to load. Joined Mar 22, 2009 Messages 2,641 Location Sierra does not advocate using their Matchking bullets for hunting. He recommened that I try the 168gr SMK instead. J And yes, SMK's work well for hunting. orch Well-Known Member. 5 grains with a 175 SMK at 600 and 1000 yards. 52 gr SMK are not good for Prarie Dogs out of a . Siso Member. I am curious to see if anyone has had experience with this bullet on deer and elk. I'm in the process of trying to find a back up load for my 308's. The 168 Match King is known for having stability issues past 600 yards after the bullet moves into the trans-sonic zone. The 175 grain 30 caliber MatchKing (#2275) was created to allow . 333 bushing and seated to 2. 340. 486 between 1800 and 2800 FPS and . 496 0. They're sub half inch at 100 yards. 436 Well-Known Member. Key Features: Precision Crafted: Every bullet is crafted to provide superior consistency, ensuring that every shot counts. 4grs of RL-22 0. Register Log In Texas Hunting Forum Forums Trading Post - Swap - Classifieds Federal Gold Medal Match (FGMM) 7. If I were to recommend a general duty cartridge Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 800, and all I could get was a 10" pattern. 860" OAL, 190 SMK gives you a step up in LR performance. A higher ballistic coefficient compared to the 168 grain bullet (#2200) allows it to Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. 308 and 175 SMK's. The typical SAMMI spec COAL for the 168 in 308 is 2. The scope was set at max power (20x). Does anyone have a strong preference and why? I've read a lot about the big bore, heavy SMK bullets working as well as hunting bullets and such. 175 SMK from factory, hinged floor plate is hard to beat. 308 FN SPR. An M1a has a 22” barrel and is closer to your 20” barrel than my bolt rifles. 5 primers. 308 bullet and think this might be a good contender vs the Nosler 168 Accubond, Hornady 175 ELD-X and the 175 Shot 3 deer with 175's out of a 308 at 440 yds, 475yds,& 525 yds. Apr 1, 2024 #15 Berger’s 308 Winchester 175 Grain OTM Tactical rifle ammunition is a tried and true military and law enforcement design that continues to be a staple for marksmen around the world. 308 and 168 grain 7mm on game and will not use them again. 5 and 41. The 175 SMK's shot exceptionally well . Ideal weights for the . 2 Mach) due to it steep boattail angle. The berger has a higher bc and chrono's from my ohler at 2720 with 9 for a sd. 308 177gr Matchkings [ Re: glocker17 ] #8219389 03/30/21 01:19 AM Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Luckily I got around 3/4 MOA from Precision Hunter and, of all things, Winchester Power Point 150. This is for my son who 175 SMK and 178 A-Max experiment that went very well! #2634970 10/05/11 06:29 PM: Joined: Dec 2008. The major advantage of adding a tip to the bullet is the reduction of drag, producing a more favorable ballistic coefficient. Sure maybe I was 3-4in high at 175 SMK from factory, hinged floor plate is hard to beat. The 175 SMK is my favorite bullet for deer from a 308 Win. 600 yards is still close enough to not need the extra BC the 190 might offer over the 175. 815 COAL) 175's are good bullets but were due for an update. 45. The wind ate me alive while I was shooting the 175 SMK's. 62x51mm Ammo rifle 175 grains | Bulk Federal . The published BC for the A-Max is Sierra also produce several match bullets though these are unsuitable for hunting most game apart from wild Boar. G. All the coyotes have shot spin and run at least a quarter mile. Anyone else use SMK's for hunting? This 6pt was taken last November in TN using a 168 gr SMK. With the current reloading world and shortages I'm want to develop a secondary load. I have a Rem 700VS that I will be from my older sierra manual imr 4831 ,w-w-case 1/10 twist bbl 26 inch ,Winchester large rifle powder 57. COAL 2. yzm19 Well-Known Member. Joined Sep 14, 2009 Messages 470 Location Northwest Ohio. Buckys; Apr 11, 2022 Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. Sierra Pro-Hunter 8mm Caliber 175 Grain Spitzer Rifle Bullets List: $61. but your numbers are way off. Here is that tidbit from the article I mentioned. The 175 SMK vs 175 Berger OTM look like a toss-up for BC. 30 cal . Posts: 41,584. Have used them on dozens of deer and pigs without a hiccup In 1995, Sierra worked with military ordnance experts to produce a superior long-range bullet for the M21, M24 and M40A1 sniper systems. 5 will shoot very well. I have 1000 175 SMk's and obviously I would rather use those. Joined Dec 6, 2012 Messages 560. The 308 Winchester has been a favorite for generations thanks to its flexibility, having been a popular chamber for both AR-15s and sniper style rifles. 8" magazine feeding pre-green tip 155 SMK @ 3000+ and 175 SMKs @ 2,800+ out of Lapua brass (LR not Palma). Last edited by 22-250AI; June 18th, 2016 Sierra MatchKing (SMK) vs. 815" OAL. The claimed BC is significantly higher than the 175 IF you need it. OP. Cleaned the tip with a small jewelers drill bit and the results. Feb 27, 2002 #1 Hello Everyone, this site is a real educational tool for me, and I hope someone will be able to help me out. The result was the new 175 grain #2275 MatchKing® bullet. 175 SMK: 44. 25 MOA elevation 175 SMK, 2650FPS, 35. So, I will start with my hunting ammo. 308 federal gold medal match. 485 0. SMK is the bullet. The SMK's performed just like a Berger hunting VLD , massive internal damage , and both exiting . Explore Our Forums. Looking for 300 win mag 175 SMK load data. Sierra Tipped MatchKing (TMK) by Sierra Bullets Chief Ballistician Tommy Todd. I have used 175 grain . Litz for Looking into trying some 175 smk's as i have had really good luck with the 168's and am wondering if there is any real advantages to the 175 smk's over the Forums. 175 smk bullets. Posts: 40,961. Should I take twist rate into account when selecting various bullet Whether youre making bulk ammo for plinking, creating the perfect hunting round, or building the best ammunition for a 500 yard shot, Midsouth has the right Rifle Bullet for your Reloading recipe. For shooting 1000 yards, heavier the better and the 175 SMK gets my vote. Jul 11, 2004 #1 If I were to begin hand loading for the 300 Win Mag I might be tempted to use the 175 SMK as they are faster and flatter than the 190's as you mention. TeamSasquatch Active Member. . Joined Dec 18, 2007 Messages 76 Location spokane, washington. neck sized with a . I will be loading up my first handloads for my 308 and I will be using once fired federal brass bump sized . 004 with Federal Primers, Powder 43. Come join the discussion Is anyone else using the 175 vld's in the 300 win mag? I'm working up a load for a friend's Remington 700 for medium to longrange use I know quite a Forums. The 190 makes sense to me . Bison Armory which put together my Mega Maten 308 recommends the 175 SMK and LWRC user manual also recommends the 175 grain projectiles for the 20" REPR which I got last week. I plan on using it for some local competitions that reach out to the from 100 - 700+ yards and use it for hunting in under 500 yard range. The rifle has a 95 Palma chamber, so if its safe in mine, its likely safe in virtually every other . Sure maybe I was 3-4in high at A full load in my . Hunting; Knives; Fishing; Black Powder; Camping; Air Guns; New Arrivals; Sale & Clearance; Wish List; Ammunition / Rifle Ammunition / 308 Winchester ; Atomic Match Subsonic 308 Winchester Ammo 175 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 100; Atomic Match Subsonic 308 Winchester Ammo 175 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 100 It is for a . B. Joined Jan 7, 2010 Messages 1,175 Location Frederick, MD. So I was figuring you meant 175 SMK - 180 Berger 7mm? For decades, the 168 SMK was the go to match bullet for the 308 Winchester, however, the newer 175 SMK provides the shooter with a greater likelihood to achieve consistent hits at 1,000 yards. 175 Berger OTM Tactical is very solid choice. If I plugged a G1 Trajectory for Sierra Bullets . Last edited by 22-250AI; I just asked Sierra the same question about their new 175 SMK (would the 175 SMK work in a 9-1/2 twist in a 7mm rem mag) The engineer's reply was at first no, it wasn't recommended for 9-1/2 twist @ 2900-3000 (roughly 7mm Rem Mag speed), they didn't think it would stabilize adequately. 0 gr 4064, LC case, #34 primer, 2. Guest Guest. Thread starter yzm19; Start date Oct 30, 2008; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. G. Mobile tagging/reporting. 175 smk load for a 308. The difference between the two lots (for the most common length i sorted The 168 is unstable in the trans sonic region (less than 1. 308 dia. Hence, I'm looking at 175gr bullets. I sold the Tikka, and now have a I just asked Sierra the same question about their new 175 SMK (would the 175 SMK work in a 9-1/2 twist in a 7mm rem mag) The engineer's reply was at first no, it wasn't recommended for 9-1/2 twist @ 2900-3000 (roughly 7mm Rem Mag speed), they didn't think it would stabilize adequately. I was going to do a 175 smk load but don't think I'll waste my time. Most of my serious hunting loads are either Rem Core-Lokt Does anyone know of a hunting bullet that has similar ballistics and all around similar accuracy as a smk 175 bthp? Not much really, you might try Berger's 175. will deer hunt at any range from 50 to 3/400 yards. Jan 29, 2011 #1 175-180 SMK twist rate What Caliber are you talking about 175-180 SMK leads me to believe 30 Cal. I got 1/2 MOA at 200 yds. gohring3006 Well-Known Member. I'm sure that's what any loading manual in the future will read. My question is what would be the best zero distance for hunting and target with the 165gr and possible 175 gr MK HPBT? Thanks Brian 175 SMK and 178 A-Max experiment that went very well! #2634970 10/05/11 06:29 PM: Joined: Dec 2008. 827: AVG 308 Winchester H4895 Reduced loads, 168 SMK and 150 Pro-Hunter H4895 is the first powder Hodgdon introduced. 5 moa. The SMK will have less jump. Rcolter Active Member. Commercial cases Fed 210 or 210m Shop Sierra 30 Caliber 175 Grain HPBT MatchKing Rifle Bullets | 5 Star Rating on 1 Review for Sierra 30 Caliber 175 Grain HPBT MatchKing Rifle Bullets Blazin' Deal + Free Shipping over $49. Re: New Sierra . Hodgdon CFE 223 IMR 4166 A full load in my . Wind Direction is: 3. The gun is zeroed at 200 yards. S. 505 over 2800 FPS. The farthest one got was 50 yds after being hit. Sierra lists COALs of about 3. Joined Feb 17, 2013 Messages 30 Location Texas. At 175 gr. I matched the 168 GM Match several years ago. Rifles and Rifle Cartridges Handloading Procedures Anybody try Berger's Hunting bullet in their 308 (26" 8 twist) hunting rifle? Just curious, I loaded some up, COAL 2. While they are recognized around the world for record-setting accuracy, MatchKing® Today I had to head out to the range and test a couple customers rifles so I decided to do a quick load development with the 175 gr SMK in my personal 7mm AM which is I'm looking for a high performance African plains game . 62x51 20 " barrel. 240 G7 BC cited here on the Hide by Mr. Great shot placement, that's just what happened. I would like to shoot them out of a 7mm Rem mag that seems Hey guys, 308 5R remmy is the gun. 62x51mm Ammunition rifle 175 grains - AmmoSeek. 80" Matchkings Excellent loads less than 1/2" in my rifle @ 100 Years ago I got a lot of flak for hunting with a . CFE223 has been my go to powder for . There is a wealth of info. Prev. 9 1/2 primer and 175 smk. For the 175 SMK, the hand load was actually 24 feet/second faster! While I shot my best group at 100 yards with the 175 gr SMK, the big winners here seem to be the 175 TMK, Remington 870 rebuild- from hunting ducks to home defense May 5, 2014 0. Last edited by 22-250AI; While they are recognized around the world for record-setting accuracy, MatchKing® and Tipped MatchKing® bullets are not recommended for most hunting applications. 230 CBTO or 2. 308, working well at shorter ranges, but it really shines at longer ranges, like out to 1000 yards. Typically some where around 800 yds it tumbles in a 308. 7moa at 900m and 1. 62mm caliber Service Rifles. HPBT MatchKing at 2600 Feet per Second At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees. 42gr of IMR 4895, Fed 210M primer, Fed brass, 168gr SMK. here on the site but nothing I've found on this particular Re: best powder for smk 175 In bulk Reloader powder is around 100 for a 5 pounder which makes it around 20 bucks a pound and the last Varget I bought was 148 for 8lbs which fiqures out to 16. 748 gives me single digit SD's when run close to max for my gun. 005. My 27" & 1:10" tube runs 2. FGMM 175 gr. Looks like Hodgdon data is good, but I will start low and work up. 308 5R using 175 SMK @2. However, the SMKs was just to check accuracy if factory ammo did not provide decent groups. The 180 berger would also be a good bullet, but the large jump may reduce accuracy compared to the 175 SMK. O. with necessary accuracy. the velocities for the Hornady was 2580,2585,2587,2594 and 2604. Joined Aug 6, 2010 Messages 177 Mar 16, 2014 #1 Just got done measuring the base to ogive of some 175 smk's. I have a small number of 178 ELDM as well. Jul 28, 2014 I do use this same combo with the 175 SMK using 41. Top tier ammunition for shooters demanding uncompromised performance in their 308/7. The muzzle velocity for the Federals was 2550,2555,2556,2557 and 2565. I think any charge between 40. Thread starter joe30007; Start date Feb 14, 2010; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Go. SMK's work GREAT!!!!! I thought I would get a little better group than 10"s! SMK's with 43. 810. 8gr. 22 Caliber 60 Grain 500 Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Full Forum Listing. Latest: Mrvmax; The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK) is a popular alternative cartridge in the AR-15/M16 M4 (AR) community. 5mm 142 SMKs I was not impressed with their performance but others have reported they work fine. 308 since it was first released. Any range. Known for its ability to deliver heavy subsonic bullets for standard AR magazines while cycling the action in suppressed applications, it also works well with lighter supersonic loads, offering a similar external ballistic performance to the 7. This bullet has also generated considerable interest among competitive Service Rifle match shooters. I will load a few to feed the new Bergara BMP that arrived today. the first in 2016 at a distance of 640 yards , and the second in 2017 , at a distance of 358 yards . Latest: Mrvmax; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 5 inch barrel, 123 SMK and 140 SMK March 28, 2016 0 Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 6, 175 SMK, 2. The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK) is a popular alternative cartridge in the AR-15/M16 M4 (AR) community. 018″ off the lands, has not changed. I rounded down for safety's sake. Pair the 175 SMKs with Lapua Palma 308 brass, and you'll have the beginnings of a fantastic match grade handload Just wanted to get some opinions. But recently at around 70 degree I get 2760 fps with a 168 ELDM and a max charge of 43. My understanding is the 175 will be better performers at longer ranges. 308 Winchester shooters to stay supersonic Federal Gold Medal is horrible hunting ammo. R. jacket was in the offside hide. It also did fairly well with the Hornady precision Hunters, best 5 shot group was a cloverleaf and two flyers. Jan 30, 2013 #4 I tried 46. 0 o’clock and a Wind Velocity of: 10. Jan 30, 2005 The only difference between the SMK, TMK, and original GameKing is, depending on the particular GameKing, is it either has a soft point or large hollow point, compared to the polymer tipped TMK and open tipped SMK (OTM). Thread starter USAFRet; Start date Mar 28, 2024; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. (Hunting) Sierra 168 Matchking(Target) COL: 2. Latest reviews Thanks again to the generous Patreon member for funding this project! I think we're onto something!https://www. The #9377 bullet is available in a cannelured version in box sizes of 500 It will be run suppressed exclusively with a Silencerco Osprey . I've got a ton of 175gr SMK that i would like to use anybody got any good starting points for me?? recommended powder, load, OAL, any pointers would be appreciated mitch . Joined Feb 1, 2010 Messages 1,024 Location North Pole. 1 inch less drift with the 175 gr. The write up on the Berger 175 GR Tactical OTM bullet looks promising at magazine length. I was shooting at 600 yards, temperature was about 5 degrees w/ no wind. All conditions identical. Posts: 39,764. 30 cal 175gr HPBT Gameking bullet that's supposed to be dimensionally identical to the 175SMK but somehow has better expansion and terminal performance? I'm looking for a high performance African plains game . A higher ballistic coefficient compared to the 168 grain bullet (#2200) allows it to remain supersonic at 1000 yards when fired from 308/7. A higher ballistic coefficient compared to the 168 grain bullet (#2200) allows it to Factory 7 RUM's have a long freebore, the 175 SMK can handle the long jump to the lands better than most other bullets. One of the very nice things about 175 gr SMK is that it has been around for a while and a large amount of data is readily available for it. 015" off the lands and Fed-215M primers. Entry, no exit, DRT. Does the job. Oct 30, 2008 #1 i am looking for a good load for my 308 using 175gr smk. I currently have on hand a decent quantity of W748 In-stock best prices for 308/7. 527 and it'll go faster than your 175 SMK. J. ca. The Nosler Long Range bullets This is an improvement over the 175 SMK, with an advertised G1 BC of . will this round perform well on deer Sierra's famous MatchKing® design assures superb accuracy, flat trajectory, and high momentum delivery with low sensitivity to crosswinds at all ranges. 308 Diameter, 30 Cal, 175 grain, Sierra MatchKing (SMK) Bullets for Reloading Rated 5 out of 5 Brian Austin (verified owner) – April 16, 2024 Was gifted some IMR4166 and was wondering if anyone had any experience reloading it with 175 grain SMK out of the 308 Winchester. Re: Sierra Match King and Tipped Match King for hunting. The SST actually entered behind the ear and blew up. When Sierra introduced the 175gr Tipped Match King bullets , with their slightly higher B. From what I have been told over the years and some experience as well, the 168gr SMK leaves something to be desired from the 600yd line out, 8,9 & 1000yds. 5 to 45. The 175 SMK has been issued to US snipers for a long time now for use on "dangerous game" that shoots back, so I have faith in it taking out a little whitetail. Posted By: BobinNH Re: sierra goes polymer tip SMK 175 is sleek! - 02/09/15. 308 bullet and think I found that Varget pushing a 175 SMK at about 2610 fps delivered quarter-MOA groups out to 300 yards and half-minute or better groups beyond that distance. The published BC for the A-Max is The result was the new 175 grain #2275 MatchKing® bullet. 308, 20. Articles. 5 grs CFE 223 pushing 175 SMK out of a 26" barrel. Go beyond what you ever thought possible with Federal Premium® Terminal Ascent™ Bonded construction penetrates deep on close targets, while the patented Slipstream™ polymer tip initiates expansion Hello all, I'm new to the forum after lurking for a long time. 505 0. Killed a pile with 175 SMK. Since developing that The MK 316 MOD 0 cartridge was developed to replace the M118 LR, by providing greater accuracy and less temperature sensitivity. From 200 yard NRA High Power matches, to 1200 yard PRS matches. A. 0: 100 yds: 1. Have Federal, Winchester and CCI LRG/RFL primers and Lapua brass. I use it because I haven't been able to load anything as accurate, and as cheap as it is why bother reloading. Furthest elk was 450 I think, and no argument from her. The 173 M118 bullet was a solid performer, but the dies were worn out and production was shifted to commercial manufactures and the 175 SMK was the result. 045. mitchell Well-Known Member. Joined Sep 29, 2012 Messages 976 Location Phila Burbs. jqhfyk dsvqt epaz ftrnq ozsbn zwqci ldr cxalb ile oyj